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Is the mid-size Santos de Cartier the best option, or is it a classic poor man’s choice?

calendar | ic_dehaze_black_24px By Gandor Bronkhorst | ic_query_builder_black_24px 8 min read |

A direct comparison between the large and the medium-sized Santos de Cartier raises the question: what is actually large? Normally the term ‘mid-size’ is marketing slang for a ‘ladies’ model’, but that’s definitely not the case here. We put the Cartier Santos mid size and large size, side by side. 

With the reintroduction of the Santos, Cartier really hit the right note at the 2018 edition of the SIHH. The revamped icon (yes, we hate that word as much as anyone, but hey, this watch genuinely deserves that designation) was a success for several reasons. The chief reason was undoubtedly the style of the watch. The new Santos is instantly recognizable, masculine, modern while still carrying that unmistakeable Cartier elegance.

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The famed Parisian Maison not only recognized the potential for such a statement watch, but it also put the right price tag on it: EUR 6,000-7,000. The entire collection is built on that strong foundation and turned out to be both aesthetically and commercially interesting.

EXCHANGEABLE STRAPS

One of the coolest details on the new Santos watch is the bracelet system. Every watch comes with one extra strap (one steel, one leather), that is easy to change. This is not a small accomplishment; more and more watch brands these days have exchangeable straps, but often the fixation feels a bit flimsy. This definitely isn’t the case with the Santos, where the bracelet has been an essential design element since its first edition in 1904.

Cartier Santos Large Model 2018 Collection - SIHH

The length of the bracelet can also be adjusted by what Cartier calls its SmartLinks. By pressing a small oval push-piece on the underside of the links, a bar is released without the need of a screwdriver. Push, release, remove the extra link, insert it again and it’s fixed. We tested it for a few minutes and the function is simple, smart and well-executed. 

TWO SIZES, same proportions

But Cartier didn’t stop with the different bracelet options. The Parisians went one step further with the sizes offering the Santos in a large and mid-size format. That’s always a bit tricky; a smaller version of any luxury product is almost always the poor man’s choice. The small price difference between the two (just EUR 600) clearly indicates that Cartier wanted to avoid the pitfall of creating a downsized, cheaper brother.

In my years as an editor at Esquire, I’ve written quite a few articles on car design. And nearly every car designer I spoke to brought up the same word to describe good design. That word was rarely aerodynamics or practicality. It almost always was ‘proportion’. Good design is always balanced, connecting all the striking visual elements in a coherent style. (Or, as Jeremy Clarkson put it: “with a well-designed car, every good line connects with another good line”.) That means you’ll never see a well-designed car with equally long front and rear ends, for example. Or for that matter, small wheel rims on a sports car. Proportions are always key. And if design proportions are good, it’s going to show when you change the size of that piece (this is the real secret behind why all Porsches look alike but are different anyway– they’ve all got the same basic proportions: that of a 911).

This trick can also be applied to watches. If all the proportions in the basic design are maintained, both sizes will be equally good. (This is what went wrong with the Rolex Explorer a couple of years ago, for example; the case grew but the hands didn’t, thereby changing the proportions of the watch; something they updated a few years later.)

The Parisians are proven masters of proportion, a skill they showcased with the Drive de Cartier; that design worked very well in both the normal and the ultra-thin version. With the Santos they had to show that particular skill again, thereby proving whether the design works as well in any size. So we went hands-on with both versions to see which of the two is actually the better one. 

small is big at cartier

The first thing that has to be noted is that neither of the timepieces is actually small. Normally the term ‘mid-size’ is marketing slang for a ‘ladies’ model’, but that’s definitely not the case here. The medium model still commands a notable presence on the wrist. And indeed, classically speaking, this 35.1mm x 41.9mm is actually a large watch. The ‘large’ version is even bigger – and measures a whopping 39.8mm x 47.5mm. The latter is notably thick as well with a height of just over 9mm.

One of the biggest design accomplishments of the Santos is the style of the bezel. A fat rim with screws has always been the hallmark of this model, but in making it contemporary – and maintaining some of that world-famous Cartier elegance – I suspect the designers had to pull every trick not to make the watch look too bulky. So what the designers did was to make the case and glass curvier. They also added one smart design feature: a polished layer on top of the brushed steel (or gold) case. This adds depth and a sense of luxury to the bezel. It does the trick perfectly by making the face of the watch stand out, without making it too bulky or a dull piece of steel.

calibre 1847 MC

The two different sizes have nothing to do with the size of the movement or any other practical reason. Both versions feature the calibre 1847 MC, a basic (4 Hz, 3-hand, 42-hour power reserve, date or no date) in-house developed and produced movement. The two different sizes are therefore solemny meant to make a statement – a task they carry out very well. Cartier’s International Marketing and Communications Director Arnaud Carrez, who could also be called the mastermind behind the reintroduction of the Santos, told me last year that these manly sizes were a very conscious decision. Cartier wanted to make a statement and show a character that would attract men with a ‘bold and fearless attitude’ towards life. An attitude, Carrez said, that was inspired by that illustrious first wearer, Mr Santos-Dumont.

variations on a theme

When it comes to real boldness, the golden Cartier Santos will make all the statements anyone will ever need. This is the watch that fortified even Gordon Gekko’s legendary greediness in Wall Street (Oliver Stone, 1987). This statement piece is a little bit too much for my personal taste, but if your life motto equals Gekko’s ‘greed is good’, this über-Santos will definitely please all your senses. The bracelet is really good, the screws are beautifully assimilated in the design and the Roman numerals on the dial come out very strongly. The watch is also typically heavy.

artier Santos 2018 GM Yellow Gold

Earlier this year, Cartier also introduced quite a nice new blue dial to the Santos collection. This colour is not yet available in the mid-size version, and it’s not sure if that will ever happen. The blue really stands out, although my preference would be the slightly more elegant and classic white dial. On the wrist, the large steel case shows a strong presence. Despite its size and weight, it wears quite comfortably thanks to the formidable bracelet (or strap, of course) and the curved case. It fits narrowly under a shirt, but I wouldn’t say it’s a really happy marriage. This watch is definitely more at home in a casual (working) environment.

That actually is the same with the 35mm version. It’s important to point out that my wrists aren’t large at all, so I might be prejudiced, but I think this size fits the Santos even better. It still is very much a statement watch. To understand what this watch does to your appearance, it’s very important to take into account what the name and fame of Cartier do to anyone wearing a watch like this. Cartier is obviously a strong brand, and the bold design of the Santos accentuates that even more. The big, shiny bezel makes for a very strong first impression. Then there’s the square dial with the instantly recognizable Roman numerals that are perfectly stretched out in the corners (that means without going too far into the edges). This is really one of the other secrets of this design: the size of the numerals is done very well.

One detail that hasn’t gotten enough attention from its makers is, in my honest opinion, the glass. When seen from the side, the glass shows a little bobbly-wobbly distortion that could’ve been prevented by using more elegantly cut glass. 

thoughts

But having said that, I really do think the Santos de Cartier is a watch that would do very well at any informal occasion; at home, casual Friday at work and at a cocktail party. Both sizes sit perfectly on the wrist, and they really make a statement that’ll tell you’ve got style and knowledge about watches. To me, the mid-size fits much better than the large version, but that has to do chiefly with my wrist size. On Frank’s wrist, in the photos with leather and blue bead bracelet, the large size its better. I really do think both watches give the same statement, bold and elegant at the same time. Because in the end – and Cartier really deserves praise for this – the choice for a bigger or smaller Santos is exactly what it should be: a matter of wrist size, not wallet size. 

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14 responses

  1. I just tried these on in the Cartier boutique because I have a very small wrist and wanted to see if I could get away with the small one.On wrist this is what I found.. The small one is definitely a ‘ladies’ size and is too delicate even on my tiny wrist. Rather odd sizing really.They must have been thinking of a his n’ hers scenario which would work perfectly.Trust me, you’ll need the larger of the two, which means you’d better like a date. Same thing with the Dumont quartz. They all have a beautiful case and bezel and are well designed and well priced for an iconic model.They look as good on the wrist as they do in the photos, maybe even better.

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  2. Ach. I prefer it without the date, but would want the bigger size. Anyway, it’s a nice watch, and fills that unusual spot in the luxury sports segment where not much else has roman numerals, and I like those.

  3. Absolute nonsense to say the smaller model is the poor mans. What about Rolex 40 or 36mm day date as an example? If you suit the smaller it doesn’t mean it’s inferior! Also the ladies version isn’t inferior either per se. My partner has the mid size Santos it suits her and me, it looks better as it has no date which personally neither of us like. Doesn’t mean we are poor.

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  4. Personally I will choose the med-size without a doubt(my wrist is around 6.25 in).

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  5. Well whadoyaknow, my comment has been disappeared! Guess I’m too poor to be allowed to share my views.
    “Monochrome Watches: if you feel insulted, you’re too poor to comment”

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  6. Tried on both versions recently. I have a 7.8 inch, fairly flat wrist, so I can normally wear any watch up to 44mm without it looking borrowed. The large one works as a casual/sports choice, while the medium (probably on a black crock strap) for more formal occasions. For my wrist size, however, the large one would be absolutely too ostentatious for formal occasions and the medium too refined for casual/sports. So you really must bear in mind the purpose before purchasing either. One caveat: the medium one would need extra links to fit my wrist.

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  7. The Tudor BB36 simply would not fit my wrist, even the bracelet model. The Prince needed 3 links removed. Guess which I bought? Yet another sign that watch companies are becoming increadingly removed from their best customers. The average sane person (who understands that six grand is a lot of money for a watch), will buy 2 or 3 in his lifetime. The average reader of this website will buy one or two a year and will often spend as much as they can afford. It makes zero sense to alienate dedicated collectors in favour of “guys off the street”, who will buy what they are presented with anyway.

  8. what is the wrist size of frank? i have a 7.5in wrist size. I’m torn between medium and large. please help

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  9. my wrist size is 7 inch. do you recommend the medium or the large? thank you

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  10. @Lee – both are good options. But the best is that you go to a Cartier boutique, try both and see which one you prefer… You’ll be a better judge 😉

  11. I have a size 12 shoe, and another big sized part, 🙂 , yet my wrist is 6.5, lol. Go figure. Have to go to Cartier totrybkth. I like each. Not sure how Bruce made a comment on April 4 2020 when it is only March 2 and?

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    04/02/2020 at 15:48
    @Lee – both are good options. But the best is that you go to a Cartier boutique, try both and see which one you prefer… You’ll be a better judge 😉”

  12. Depends on what you’re used to. The large looks way too large on any size wrist, as far as I’m concerned. The days of Stallone and Schwarzenegger watches are over. But then I’m from a time where gigantic watches were only worn by rappers and other undesirables.

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  13. Note that the steel version looks larger on the wrist than the two-tone, at least to me in separate fittings. I was looking to buy a Santos, but knew the large would be too big. (It was.) Also, I *really* didn’t want a date. I was depressed that the TT looked small on my (pretty thin) wrist. Then I tried the steel version. Bought it on the spot.

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